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		<title>by: RLR</title>
		<link>http://gearino.com/index.php/2008/02/29/me-vs-no-third-and-final-round/#comment-1823</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 14:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I enjoy lots of Barry's columns, and he is a nice enough fellow in person.  But digging back through his N&amp;#38;O output, it is patently obvious that he despises Duke University and does not hesitate at any opportunity to drag it through the mud in his column.  Let's not forget that Barry was offended that Coach K wasn't prominently yakking at all the Duke press conferences as Crystal Gail Mangum's bogus claims first came to light.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoy lots of Barry&#8217;s columns, and he is a nice enough fellow in person.  But digging back through his N&amp;O output, it is patently obvious that he despises Duke University and does not hesitate at any opportunity to drag it through the mud in his column.  Let&#8217;s not forget that Barry was offended that Coach K wasn&#8217;t prominently yakking at all the Duke press conferences as Crystal Gail Mangum&#8217;s bogus claims first came to light.
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		<title>by: Re: What the devil! Are they real?</title>
		<link>http://gearino.com/index.php/2008/02/29/me-vs-no-third-and-final-round/#comment-1451</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 13:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Following is the sum total of a reply I received from Saunders. My email to him follows the == line.


STRIP CLUBS? Me? Perish the thought.
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On Feb 26, 2008, at 4:48 AM, XXXXX XXXXX wrote:

BS-

You said:

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Y'all guys ought to be ashamed, because unless you wear your lacrosse jerseys to job interviews or on first dates, no one but family members and friends know who the heck you are.

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Er...no. There's this little thing called &quot;Google&quot;. Put down your crayon and go look it up. You can get to it through a thing called a computer. Google never forgets.

Every single employer of professionals now does a Google search before hiring someone. Maybe you don't think it's damaging to a reputation to have to answer &quot;What's this rape thing about?&quot; in job interviews for the rest of your life. If you even get to the interview. Most employers will simply deep six a resume with that kind of search result.

I just Googled &quot;Barry Saunders&quot;. A bunch of stuff about strip clubs came up. You better hope your gig with the N&amp;#38;O gets you to retirement.

If you were honest with us you'd go ahead and tell us that you're happy they've been damaged.

You said:

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A News &amp;#38; Observer story from 2006 reported that nearly one-third of the players on that year's team had been charged with various offenses such as underage drinking, public urination, and open container violations.

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Which naturally leads into the News &amp;#38; Observer story from 2006 reporting that three members of a lacrosse team absolutely and definitely raped and sexually assaulted the poor wittle mother just trying to earn a living. Do you have any idea what your creditability is worth? Not much.

Even today, Anne Blythe is still getting it wrong

http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/

Taranto said:

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Homer Nods
On Friday we heard from Bob Bork Jr., publicist for the Duke lacrosse players who are suing the university. He tells us that we erred in citing a report from the Raleigh News &amp;#38; Observer that said, &quot;The players chose not to appear at the news conference, said Bob Bork Jr., the group's hired publicist, because they don't want to attract attention.&quot;

Bork has reproduced the relevant part of his statement here (scroll to the update at the bottom of the post), and we agree that the N&amp;#38;O's paraphrase does not accurately describe what he said.&quot;

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Y'all got slapped down by an actual creditable newspaper. When are you going to learn that people can now fact check your ass?

Here's what was really said (there's video too):

http://www.dukelawsuit.com/2008/02/misquoted-by-raleigh-news-observer.html

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Sorry, another misquote in the same story. I didn't notice it before until a blogger mentioned it this afternoon.

The players chose not to appear at the news conference, said Bob Bork Jr., the group's hired publicist, because they don't want to attract attention.

The blogger thought this was a stupid comment on my part because the players filed a lawsuit that was bound to attract attention. He would have been correct if that was what I had said.

Well, here's the reason I gave for the players' absence. You will see that what the paper reported can't be extracted from what I said.

None of the 38 players who are filing this lawsuit are here today. They considered participating, but many have jobs and some are still students and lacrosse team members at Duke. One is in Army Ranger school preparing to deploy to Iraq.

Know this -- the players are united behind this lawsuit. At the same time that they are understandably concerned about retribution and negative, maybe even slanderous media coverage. Who can blame them after what they endured for 13 months in 2006 and 2007. They are walking a fine line between trying to live normal lives in the wake of an unspeakable trauma and at the same time trying to get answers to questions that remain unaddressed by their university.

They need to have peace to heal, but there can be no healing without accountability.

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Your column is a direct justification of the &quot;slanderous media coverage&quot; comment.

- N. Raleigh subscriber

p.s. So you're a Durham resident? I'm happy to learn that your taxes are going to help pay damages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Following is the sum total of a reply I received from Saunders. My email to him follows the == line.</p>
<p>STRIP CLUBS? Me? Perish the thought.<br />
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On Feb 26, 2008, at 4:48 AM, XXXXX XXXXX wrote:</p>
<p>BS-</p>
<p>You said:</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Y&#8217;all guys ought to be ashamed, because unless you wear your lacrosse jerseys to job interviews or on first dates, no one but family members and friends know who the heck you are.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Er&#8230;no. There&#8217;s this little thing called &#8220;Google&#8221;. Put down your crayon and go look it up. You can get to it through a thing called a computer. Google never forgets.</p>
<p>Every single employer of professionals now does a Google search before hiring someone. Maybe you don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s damaging to a reputation to have to answer &#8220;What&#8217;s this rape thing about?&#8221; in job interviews for the rest of your life. If you even get to the interview. Most employers will simply deep six a resume with that kind of search result.</p>
<p>I just Googled &#8220;Barry Saunders&#8221;. A bunch of stuff about strip clubs came up. You better hope your gig with the N&amp;O gets you to retirement.</p>
<p>If you were honest with us you&#8217;d go ahead and tell us that you&#8217;re happy they&#8217;ve been damaged.</p>
<p>You said:</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>A News &amp; Observer story from 2006 reported that nearly one-third of the players on that year&#8217;s team had been charged with various offenses such as underage drinking, public urination, and open container violations.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Which naturally leads into the News &amp; Observer story from 2006 reporting that three members of a lacrosse team absolutely and definitely raped and sexually assaulted the poor wittle mother just trying to earn a living. Do you have any idea what your creditability is worth? Not much.</p>
<p>Even today, Anne Blythe is still getting it wrong</p>
<p><a href='http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/' rel='nofollow'>http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/</a></p>
<p>Taranto said:</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Homer Nods<br />
On Friday we heard from Bob Bork Jr., publicist for the Duke lacrosse players who are suing the university. He tells us that we erred in citing a report from the Raleigh News &amp; Observer that said, &#8220;The players chose not to appear at the news conference, said Bob Bork Jr., the group&#8217;s hired publicist, because they don&#8217;t want to attract attention.&#8221;</p>
<p>Bork has reproduced the relevant part of his statement here (scroll to the update at the bottom of the post), and we agree that the N&amp;O&#8217;s paraphrase does not accurately describe what he said.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Y&#8217;all got slapped down by an actual creditable newspaper. When are you going to learn that people can now fact check your ass?</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what was really said (there&#8217;s video too):</p>
<p><a href='http://www.dukelawsuit.com/2008/02/misquoted-by-raleigh-news-observer.html' rel='nofollow'>http://www.dukelawsuit.com/2008/02/misquoted-by-raleigh-news-observer.html</a></p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Sorry, another misquote in the same story. I didn&#8217;t notice it before until a blogger mentioned it this afternoon.</p>
<p>The players chose not to appear at the news conference, said Bob Bork Jr., the group&#8217;s hired publicist, because they don&#8217;t want to attract attention.</p>
<p>The blogger thought this was a stupid comment on my part because the players filed a lawsuit that was bound to attract attention. He would have been correct if that was what I had said.</p>
<p>Well, here&#8217;s the reason I gave for the players&#8217; absence. You will see that what the paper reported can&#8217;t be extracted from what I said.</p>
<p>None of the 38 players who are filing this lawsuit are here today. They considered participating, but many have jobs and some are still students and lacrosse team members at Duke. One is in Army Ranger school preparing to deploy to Iraq.</p>
<p>Know this &#8212; the players are united behind this lawsuit. At the same time that they are understandably concerned about retribution and negative, maybe even slanderous media coverage. Who can blame them after what they endured for 13 months in 2006 and 2007. They are walking a fine line between trying to live normal lives in the wake of an unspeakable trauma and at the same time trying to get answers to questions that remain unaddressed by their university.</p>
<p>They need to have peace to heal, but there can be no healing without accountability.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Your column is a direct justification of the &#8220;slanderous media coverage&#8221; comment.</p>
<p>- N. Raleigh subscriber</p>
<p>p.s. So you&#8217;re a Durham resident? I&#8217;m happy to learn that your taxes are going to help pay damages.
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		<title>by: Walter Abbott</title>
		<link>http://gearino.com/index.php/2008/02/29/me-vs-no-third-and-final-round/#comment-1450</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 12:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Welcome to the debate, Mr. Gearino.  I look forward to further commentary from you about the NandO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to the debate, Mr. Gearino.  I look forward to further commentary from you about the NandO.
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